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Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
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Posted - 2012.05.31 10:27:00 -
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Those who joined the game knowing that the premise was it being pvp centered and didn't wrap you in cotton wool are now fighting against the rising tide of entitled whiners who seem to believe that the game should change to benefit them and them alone.
They've drifted in from other games, probably lured by the shiny enticement of Walking in Stations, and now discover that the hand holding and cotton wool wrapping they enjoyed elsewhere isn't available in EVE. The players who appreciate EVE for what CCP made it are taking back the game.
The whiner's time has come, face the fact that the game isn't Hello Kitty, grow some balls and teeth or fall away like dead wood. If the Sims all became zombies it would be easy to escape them, just shove them in a room and make them answer the telephone. |
Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
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Posted - 2012.05.31 11:58:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:Velicitia wrote:I think they do ... but then things become "Oh, hey Bob ... we killed Steve again" ... it gets stale ... I'm fairly certain it is more in the lines of "Hell, that guy over there knows his PvP. I might actually have to risk my ship to engage him!" Spineless and hypocritical, that's what they are, most of them.
Much like those who think they shouldn't be affected by anyone else in the game, if they actually got some balls and took steps to protect themselves they wouldn't be such easy target. But then that takes effort, so not really an option for the entitlement crowd is it. If the Sims all became zombies it would be easy to escape them, just shove them in a room and make them answer the telephone. |
Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
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Posted - 2012.05.31 11:59:00 -
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Tor Gungnir wrote:MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Tor Gungnir wrote:Kimmi Chan wrote: 2. PVP Enthusiasts (pirates, thugs, insert expletive of the month here) need targets. People in high sec used to come through low sec and you'd occasionally get blown up at a gate camp. No one from hi sec comes to low sec anymore because it's not safe (I know, the horror!). Since the targets won't go to low sec, the PVP Enthusiasts will come to high sec. Because that's where the targets are.
This might sound like a groundbreaking concept right here, but stay with me. What if - what if - those low/null-sec "PvP enthusiasts" started to grow balls and started preying on each other instead of looking for easy targets that can't fight back from High-sec. Unthinkable, I know. But just toss it around for a minute in your head. But then their PVP safety rails would be removed and that would be unacceptable. Pay attention. We only want carebear safety rails to be removed. This guy here. This guy gets it.
Only in your opinion, which means he doesn't get it at all. If the Sims all became zombies it would be easy to escape them, just shove them in a room and make them answer the telephone. |
Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
250
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Posted - 2012.05.31 12:51:00 -
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Kougy wrote:I dont know why people hate us so much, I just want to mine in peace darnit.
That's fine, but it may involve a bit of effort to either find a system off the beaten track, away from the trade hubs and routes to avoid attracting much attention or be prepared to set up measures to deter gankers. Just because you wan't to mine in peace doesn't mean that everybody else should be forced to leave you alone. You have to work for it and use a little bit of thought. If the Sims all became zombies it would be easy to escape them, just shove them in a room and make them answer the telephone. |
Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
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Posted - 2012.05.31 12:55:00 -
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MatrixSkye Mk2 wrote:Sociopaths need someone to hate. And their brains are shortcircuited, so they themselves don't understand why they do what they do.
As soon as someone starts aiming the word sociopath at anyone who doesn't play the game their way I just disregard their post as a whine, if you consider anyone who enjoys the pvp aspects of the game as a sociopath, psychopath or whatever bullshit buzzword you hear someone else spewing on the forums, you've failed to separate the game from real life and you're taking it way too seriously. You are the weakest link, goodbye. If the Sims all became zombies it would be easy to escape them, just shove them in a room and make them answer the telephone. |
Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
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Posted - 2012.05.31 13:14:00 -
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Hestia Mar wrote: However this notion about 'undocking means you consent to pvp' is just total bollocks...if , when undocking, a window opens and gives a warning, such as you get when jumping into lo-sec, that you may be attacked at any time, and you need to click 'ok' to undock, then yes I would accept that undock does mean consent. But that's not what happens!
When you signed up for the game and downloaded the client, that was your warning message. It is not bollocks, If the Sims all became zombies it would be easy to escape them, just shove them in a room and make them answer the telephone. |
Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
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Posted - 2012.05.31 13:35:00 -
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Drei Ontalas wrote:Tippia wrote:Drei Ontalas wrote:It would still be EVE. The greatness of the game is that it can accomodate a multiplicity of play styles.
In theory a hi-sec bubble of theme park could accommodate those most hated of players from WOW, SWTOR etc. This would bump up CCP's resources. It would also mean more players would be able to find their feet before joining the "real" EVE. No it wouldn't, unless, in that same theory, those players were unable to interact with the market; were unable to engage in science and industry; were unable to mine, do exploration, and collect loot and salvage from missions. Without those restrictions, the rest of EVE cannot accommodate the levels of protections inside that bubble and it would abused to no end. How would it be abused? I accept that some people would do their level best to abuse the system. They already do. But what would the nature of the abuse be?
Does it really matter what the nature of the abuse would be? It just doesn't fit with the concept of EVE, plain and simple, it not's required to make EVE 'better' and those of us who actually signed up for the game as it's presented by CCP don't wish to see the sandbox ruined by those coming from other games and trying to turn it into the same rubbish that they played elsewhere.
If the Sims all became zombies it would be easy to escape them, just shove them in a room and make them answer the telephone. |
Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
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Posted - 2012.05.31 14:17:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:Drei Ontalas wrote:
My idea, as unfleshed out as it is, is that this "bubble" would seed players into the rest of EVE where they could find more enagaging game play. I admit that it requires more thought, particularly as to how it might impact on the wider economy, but would it have an overall negative impact on other players? The dog-eat-dog aspect of the rest of the Universe wouldn't change.
Let's say you're a nullsec alliance leader, and you need 250 million trit. you could mine it in nullsec, where it's dangerous ... OR you simply mine it in (or buy it from) hisec, where it's 100% safe, and jump it directly to where you need it to be. NOW do you see why it's a problem?
He probably doesn't. Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method |
Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
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Posted - 2012.05.31 17:42:00 -
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Spikeflach wrote:Tallian Saotome wrote: You don't need time, you just need to watch them warp to the belt you are in in a suspicious manner, and immediately warp out.
You are smart enough to have your own 1 week old alt with a ship full of webs to slingshot you, right?
Because playing eve correctly involves having more than one account?
Or get some friends to help. Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method |
Virgil Travis
GWA Corp Unified Church of the Unobligated
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Posted - 2012.05.31 20:02:00 -
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terrly bronks wrote:pvp'ers need to stay in 0.0
And now you're telling people where they can pvp, and you've obviously never heard of low sec at all have you? Unified Church of the Unobligated - madness in the method |
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